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Copyright and ISBN #s

rgalentino Hello.  I am turning my ebook into a CD book because of the size (12MB) many pictures.  

1.  Does somebody know which copyright form I fill out for a CD book (with pictures, text, and voice)?  Is it the SR, PA, or TX form under multimedia?

2.  What about for an ebook with pictures, text and voice?

3.  When I secure an ISBN number ... do I have to buy the full 10 different ISBNs for $250 ... or is the cheaper way of just buying one ISBN?

Thanks for the advice.


Posted on: 10:52 pm on October 14, 2001
Neenah13 Hi,

Don't know if you ever got answers to your questions or not, but here goes.  As far as I know you have to buy the block of 10 ISBNs.  Which I did-- but then, I have three novels ready to go. Plus a picture book.  You're supposed to use a new number for EACH format of the book.  That is, your CD gets its own ISBN, your ebook would get another, print yet another, PDF, floppy . . . . and so on.  Which can eat up your block of 10 in a hurry. If that isn't bad enough, each type of binding for a print book needs its own ISBN . . . paperback, hardcover, spiral, etc.  A major revision of your book will need a new ISBN.

I'm trying to decide whether a book I'm selling email or download really needs one.  After all, they are there to help bookstores track sales of your book. One author told me that I should since someone from an online bookstore could surf onto your site, and decide tol list your ebook on theirs.  I'm thinking I don't care about that right now. Who knows if that'll really happen? Be great if it did, and then maybe I'd go get another block.  I care more about getting the CDs, the floppies and the print copies their own numbers.  

You will also need a Bookland/EAN Bar Code which you'll need to purchase from a printer who does that sort of thing.  There's also sites online where you can make one up and print it out.  I don't have those addresses right handy at the moment, though.

I don't know the answer for your copyright dilemna.  Did you get that sorted out?  


Posted on: 6:09 am on January 16, 2002
childofeve Wow, things I never thought of.  I hope I do not need a ISBN for my ebook.  My novel is almost done I hope to have an agent or publisher helping me with that.  I cannot afford to put any real cash into this.   What should I do ?  If I need things like ISBN's???   I need to make money on the ebook to support the novel.......oooohh  Well any suggestions would help.

Posted on: 10:21 pm on February 6, 2002
EBookCompiler You don't have to get ISBNs.

In my experience, most ebooks don't have ISBNs.  

And you can always get one later.

My suggestion: Start gradually. Do a short-ish ebook first.  Maybe a "report" type ebook or two first.  Sell that. Learn from each experience (hopefully making a little money as you go ;-) )

Posted on: 3:56 pm on February 7, 2002
Neenah13 Somehow, I never got back to this thread.  In case anyone needs to have the info still, here goes!

For downloadable and emailed books you don't need to have an ISBN unless you want to list your books at ebook stores, etc.  

For CDs and floppies, if you want to list them in Bowkers Books In Print---where book sellers go to look for new title pr on Amazon.com or any other place of the sort, an ISBN and a barcode is needed. The ISBN number identifies the publisher of the work and is a requirement when using distributors and bookstores, etc.  They get testy if you don't have one.  The bar code lists your ISBN and the book's price which gets scanned in the stores.

However, if you're just selling off your site and don't ever plan to deal with any sort of store or distributor, no ISBN is needed.  

No ISBN is ever needed if you're going to be approaching an agent or publisher with your book, anyway.  As I mentioned, the ISBN identifies the publisher---not the author---of the ebook or any book.  So if you just want to be the author you don't have to worry about anything except writing the best book you can.  Make sure you send in clean copy, no typos or spelling errors; check your grammar, proper, or, at least, reasonably proper punctuation.  

I wanted to be an independent publisher of my own stuff, so I bought my block of 10 numbers.  I have a publisher---for what I do with my writing partner since that's what he wants to do.  However our publisher isn't one of the big ones, so we have to do a lot of the promo work ourselves.  Which is what I do for my own stuff, except that I have more control over my work.  And the profits are all mine . . . less the fees from the places processing the payments for me.  Still if the stories sell well, it'll be more money than I'd get from royalties from a traditionally published book.

As Sunil said, start small if you want to do it yourself.  Baby steps.  I don't have a ton of money either.  And since each binding or format of a book is supposed to get its own number, this alone can get expensive.  I may kill the floppies entirely, leave numbers off downloadables, and give the HTML and PDF CDs and the print editions the ISBNs---when the cash shows up for print editions.

For those of us in the fiction sector, ebooks are still viewed as "no fun."  I've elected to allow printing of my novels in hopes that will attract some readers so if they want to curl up in a chair or in bed, they can.

I also buy ebooks as well as trying to sell them.  My fiction library has around 10 or 12 titles.  Maybe more, I really haven't counted them.  One day when I have the time, I want to add a review page to my site for fiction titles.  (Family themes, no steamy stuff.)  And I plan to keep adding novels to my electronic library. The stories themselves are good, and some are exceptional.  Be sad to pass up work like that.

Anyway, I hope you have had success with your novel, and I wish I'd remembered I'd posted to this thread.  Guess I didn't check the email notification at the time.


Posted on: 7:20 am on October 17, 2002

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